Dr. John Goetsch Agrees With The Seventh-Day Adventist Cult
by David J. Stewart | September 2019
I was watching a heretical YouTube sermon today titled “SALVATION” by iconic Seventh-Day Adventist (SDA) cult teacher, Doug Batchelor. Pastor Batchelor is without a doubt the most prominent voice in the SDA religion today. For those of you who don't know, Seventh-Day Adventism began in the year 1844 when a doctrinally corrupt Baptist preacher named William Miller set a date for Christ's return. The date was October 22, 1844. Over ten thousand followers of Miller gave away their worldly possessions, quit their jobs and sold their homes, awaiting the return of the Lord.
To their embarrassment, Jesus didn't return! This failed prophecy became known as “The Great Disappointment” (warning: SDA website). The Bible teaches in Mark 13:33 that no one knows the time of Christ' return. (By the way, Robert Breaker is a modern-day religious heretic on YouTube who has repeatedly made false predictions of Christ's return, setting dates for the Rapture.) To save face in 1844, someone suggested that they had misinterpreted the Scriptures, and what really happened was Jesus entered into the Holy Place in Heaven to begin His work of Investigative Judgment (a heretical term exclusive to SDA). The SDA religion was born and in time Miss Ellen G. White became the most revered figure in the SDA religion. Miss White's many writings are elevated equally with the Word of God in SDA. Tragically, an estimated 20,000,000 people today are deceived by the SDA religion, following a false plan of partial faith plus works for salvation.
Doug Batchelor makes it very clear in his satanic YouTube sermon titled, “Salvation - Law - Grace,” that keeping the Ten Commandment is necessary to get to Heaven. SDA's are sneaky as the Devil, superficially claiming that salvation is by faith, but then they require keeping the Ten Commandment as the way of having that faith. So if you are living in open sin SDA's will say that you do not have saving-faith! That sure sounds eerily familiar to what Dr. John Goetsch teaches. As I listened to Doug Batchelor teach “ANOTHER GOSPEL” (Galatians 1:6-9), he errantly defines repentance to mean “a willingness to turn away from sins”...
“Repentance means being sorry for our sins and have a willingness to turn away from them.”
SOURCE: Pastor Doug Batchelor, 'SALVATION'
Where does the Bible say that repentance means to be sorry for your sins? It doesn't. We read that “godly sorrow worketh repentance” (2nd Corinthians 7:10), but sorrow is NOT repentance! Judas felt sorrow, and the Bible says he “repented” (Matthew 27:3), but it is a completely different word (metamellomai, i.e., to feel remorse and regret) for repentance than is used for salvation (metanoia, i.e., a change of mind). Judas was only sorry that he got caught. Judas felt sorrow, but sorrow is not a change of mind unto the Gospel. So feeling sorrow is not a requirement to be saved. Furthermore, Judas was willing to turn away from sins, evidenced by his attempt to return the 30 pieces of silver to the Pharisees. Judas regretted the evil he had done. So we see very clearly that sorrow, regret and turning from sins is NOT the way to be saved, because Judas still went to Hell.
Unfortunately, Dr. John Goetsch (who teaches at West Coast Baptist College in Lancaster, California) foolishly teaches the same thing as false teacher Doug Batchelor (i.e., that you must turn away from sins to be saved)...
“'Okay, here I am—I'm a sinner. I'm on my way to Hell. Uh, okay I don't want to go to Hell. Lord, please come into my life, save me.' No, that's not salvation! That is a prayer. That's not salvation—you didn't turn! You didn't repent! The word 'repent' means 'about face, 180 degree turn.' That's what it literally means. See, when we get saved there has to be repentance. You can't have salvation and your sin. You've gotta turn from your sin to Jesus Christ!” [emphasis added]
SOURCE: Dr. John Goetsch Teaches Full Blown Works Salvation | MP3 Backup
Nowhere in the inspired Word of God (which is the King James Bible in English) are we taught to “turn from sin” or “repent from sin” to be saved. Neither of those phrases are found in the Holy Bible. The idea of turning away from sins to be saved is rooted in the self-righteousness of Cain, who tried to please God by offering the best grain that his fields could produce. ...
Genesis 4:1-5, “And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.”
Abel's lamb sacrifice demonstrated his faith in the coming Messiah, who would one day shed His blood on the cross to pay for the sins of the world; but Cain missed the boat, as does Dr. John Goetsch and SDA's, trying to appease God's wrath with their own human effort. Sadly, SDA is growing rapidly in North America. I believe this is due to the woeful lack of local Bible-believing, Bible-preaching, King James Bible only, door-to-door soulwinning, people-loving, Spirit-filled, praying, New Testament churches. The Devil is winning many battles, even though we know Scripturally that the war is already won. Jesus told us as God's children to “BE OF GOOD CHEER” because He has already overcome the world (John 16:33). We are on the winning side in Christ Jesus!
As did his father Adam (who tried to cover his sins with fig-leaves), Cain also tried to please God in his own merit. God rejected Adam's fig-leave religion! God rejected Cain's works-based religion! God doesn't save anyone who is TRYING to be saved, He only saves those who are TRUSTING to be saved. Salvation is not doing your best, it is having Christ's best put to your account through receiving Him by faith. Religion is man trying to reach God through human effort, but Christianity is God trying to reach man by the sacrifice of His only begotten Son on the cross. Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to this world! Man's sinful nature tends to add human effort (works) to God's imputed righteousness, which is by faith. What saith the Scripture? Philippians 3:9, “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.” Oh, how I wish I could get churchgoers to understand this Bible verse! If Dr. John Goetsch truly understood this Bible verse, then he would never teach the false things that he does. God deliver us from intellectuals.
Dr. Goetsch further errantly states:
“'We cannot have salvation and our sins. Faith in Christ without repentance from sin is unbiblical. I know we don't always use both words when we talk about getting saved. We might say, 'You need to put your faith in Christ.' We might say, 'You need to turn from your sin.' Both are essential elements. Acts 20:21, 'Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.'” [emphasis added]
SOURCE: Dr. John Goetsch Teaches Full Blown Works Salvation | MP3 Backup
Oh dear reader, Dr. Goetsch utterly fails to understand that salvation is solely by the imputed righteousness of God. Please read the Bible again from Philippians 3:9, “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.” Did you get that?—WHICH IS BY FAITH!!! Romans 4:5-6, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works.” That means I can continue living in sin, if I so choose, and still receive the gift of forgiveness of all my sins by faith alone! If that offends you, then get mad at our merciful God, because HE SAID IT! I am simply preaching the inspired Word of God!!!
What saith the Scripture? Romans 10:3-4, “For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” That means all that is required of a person to be deemed judicially innocent in God's court of law, is fulfilled by simple childlike faith in Jesus Christ. You read right! By simply placing your complete reliance (trust) upon what Christ did on the cross to pay for your sins, God accepts that faith as the equivalent of perfectly obeying all of God's commandments for a lifetime! There are (to my understanding) 722 commandments under the Old Covenant, all of which are required (not including ceremonial laws today) to be kept perfectly to obtain eternal life. I mean, if you want to earn your way to Heaven, you've got to be absolutely 100% perfect in every way before God. NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THAT EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST (Hebrews 4:14-16). That is why Jesus was able to become our Savior. The Bible says to break even one of God's Commandments is the same as breaking them all. In other words, you only have to commit one sin to become guilty, deserving of eternal damnation. James 2:10, “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” By man's shallow standards, we think eternal damnation is too much punishment for a lesser sinner, but God is so holy and righteous that we cannot even begin to grasp His standards of justice and righteousness. If you commit just one sin, you deserve eternal damnation according to God's perfect holy standards. We all deserve to burn in Hell forever!
Thankfully, God made a sure way of escape, through the sacrifice of His only begotten Son. Romans 5:8-9, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” There is no mention of repenting from our sinful ways to be saved; but rather, of being justified “BY HIS BLOOD” through faith in Him alone. The very notion of having to “turn away from sins” (false repentance) to be saved is nauseating and repulsive to any learned Bible student. I feel sickened by what West Coast Baptist College is teaching their impressionable students. I am saddened that Pastor Paul Chappell is okay with this deadly junk theology. No parent ought enroll their child into a corrupt Bible college that teaches a false gospel. It is far beyond a mere matter of semantics! Works have no part or parcel in God's plan of redemption. We are saved by God's imputed righteousness, which is solely by faith, because it is a free gift (Romans 5:15,18; 6:23). Turning from sinful ways is a matter of growing in grace, of discipleship, and not of obtaining redemption.
“The worst pervert in America is the Gospel pervert!”
SOURCE: Brother Lester Roloff, from the sermon, “The Gospel Perverts Or Jesus?”
Lordship Salvation is rooted in self-righteousness, because all Christians are sinners. If living in sin can hinder a person from being saved, who desires to be saved, then we are all doomed to the Lake of Fire, because even the best Christians still sin every day (Romans 3:23; Romans 7:14-25). It is solely by God's merciful righteousness that we are saved through faith alone in Christ (2nd Corinthians 5:21). Lordship Salvation and the Pentecostal Charismatic heresy of losing one's salvation are related monsters. Lordship Salvationists ADD works to faith to get saved, and the Charismatics ADD works to faith to STAY saved. Regardless, these two damnable heresies are both rooted in works salvation! Good works, bad works or dead works, they are all WORKS!!! Romans 3:20, “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” The main purpose of God's LAW is to show mankind his SINNERSHIP, that we might see our great need for GRACE, through faith alone in the precious slain Lamb of God on Calvary's cross.
Please read What is Biblical Repentance?
The following excellent information by Dr. Hank Lindstrom is from the helpful Christian website, Get God's Gift...
In these last days of the end times of Bible prophecy, we will increasingly see persecution of born-again Christians, worldwide. Matthew 24:9-11, “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.” Notice that many Christians will “BETRAY ONE ANOTHER.” Is this not what West Coast Baptist College is doing today, by propagating a false gospel of partial faith in Christ plus works? Is this not what Bob Jones University is doing, by betraying the inspired Word of God? Is this not what Baptist churches all across America are doing, by accepting the LGBTQ agenda? Where is all this horrible apostasy leading? How can the churches survive subversion from within by tares rising up everywhere nowadays?
Notice in Matthew 24:9-11 that Christians will even “HATE ONE ANOTHER.” Jesus is speaking to His disciples. Christians will be murdered for Jesus' name's sake. Many people will be offended the Bible foretells. There will be MANY FALSE PROPHETS who shall rise up, deceiving MANY! I get shivers as I read the Lord's Words, because we see it all happening already everywhere we turn. Hostility against Christians is rapidly escalating in the United States, and THERE IS A GENERATION rising up that doesn't look up to God...
- Proverbs 30:11, “There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.”
- Proverbs 30:12, “There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.”
- Proverbs 30:13, “There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.”
- Proverbs 30:14, “There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.”
Ladies and gentlemen, we are living in that generation! Please listen to Pastor Danny Castle preach the very needful sermon titled, “THE GENERATION THAT DOESN'T LOOK UP!”
There are TWO VERY DIFFERENT plans of salvation being taught in churches today, including independent Baptist churches:
- PARTIAL FAITH IN CHRIST + WORKS — The false gospel of John MacArthur, Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, Paul Washer, Jack Chick, John Goetsch, Aiden Tozer, Billy Graham, Joel Osteen, Pat Robertson, William Lane Craig, Chip Ingram, Rick Warren, Paris Reidhead, C.S. Lewis, David Cloud and many others—errantly require a person to stop sinning (or be willing to stop sinning), to have intent to reform, make a full surrender to Christ, declare “Jesus as Lord,” count the cost, start a relationship with Jesus, invite Jesus into your heart, commit one's life to live for Jesus, change your ways, and forsake the world, AS A REQUIREMENT TO BE SAVED (as a prerequisite to placing your faith in Christ). This heresy is commonly known as “Lordship Salvation.” Jehovah's Witnesses, Paul Washer and Ray Comfort agree. John MacArthur and Mormons agree. Dr. John Goetsch Agrees With Seventh-Day Adventists. These false prophets all errantly teach that you cannot have salvation and your sins, you must turn away from them. In this false plan of salvation, the sinner is burdened to reform their own life of sin, which is behavior modification for salvation.
- FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE — The true Biblical Gospel teaches that we are saved solely by Christ's righteousness (Romans 10:3-4), and that no self-righteousness of any kind is required (Titus 3:5) because we have none to offer (Isaiah 64:6); neither does a person have to quit any sin to be saved (Romans 4:5-6; Acts 13:39), nor even to be willing to stop sinning. Charles Spurgeon himself rightly taught that THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS OF SALVATION! YOU ARE A SINNER! Unless you accept Christ's payment on the cross for your sins, believing that He resurrected bodily from the dead three days later, you will spend eternity burning in the fires of Hell. Harry A. Ironside, Curtis Hutson, John R. Rice, Jack Hyles and Michael P. Bowen (.pdf) are 100% correct on repentance and salvation! A desire to turn away from sinful living is not a requirement for salvation, anymore than such a request would be required to receive a birthday gift. God righteousness alone is wholly sufficient to save! You can have salvation and your sins, because getting saved is a matter of acknowledging one's sinnership and trusting the Savior, Who died on the cross to pay for our sins. It is a gift! In true salvation, the indwelling Holy Spirit makes changes as we grow in grace, if we obey the Lord (1st Peter 2:2; Romans 12:1).
The Old Testament law's PURPOSE is to be used as a measuring stick, by which when we are compared, we are silenced of any boasting of our own goodness (Ephesians 2:8-9). We all fall short of God's glory (Romans 3:23). Romans 3:19 teaches that God's law was given so that “ALL THE WORLD MAY BECOME GUILTY BEFORE GOD.” The purpose of the law is NOT to compel us to turn away from sin and walk the narrow path of self reform, so that God will accept our faith.
Modern Corrupt Bible Versions Pervert the Meaning of Repentance
This is why I rip against Bob Jones University and other apostate Bible colleges so much, and their shameful graduates and afflicted churches, like Harvest Baptist Church on Guam. They all endorse the corrupt modern Bible versions of the Devil. Let me show you a comparison between Mark 1:15 in the King James Bible (KJB) versus the New Life Version (NLV)...
KING JAMES BIBLE (KJB) - Mark 1:15, “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
NEW LIFE VERSION (NLV) - Mark 1:15, “He said, 'The time has come. The holy nation of God is near. Be sorry for your sins, turn from them, and believe the Good News.'”
Whoa! What a lie in the NLV! By the way, you'll find this same corruption in all the modern versions that were translated from the Greek of Brooke Westcott and Fenton Hort.
The Theology of Cain Versus the Theology of Abel
Since the very beginning of human civilization we see that mankind has had a problem with getting salvation right. Adam, the first man, sought to cover his nakedness (and that of his wife Eve) after they sinned by eating the forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. Adam sewed together some fig-leaves to cover their nakedness, because they were ashamed from guilt caused by sin. And may I say, we have a severe problem with nakedness in American culture. Muslim women come much closer to being right with their burka head coverings, than American women who strip down in public. To the same degree that a woman fears God, she's covers her body. Adam foolishly attempted to deal with his sins by covering them, but sin must be paid for. Thankfully, Christ paid for our sins! Jesus paid a debt that He did not owe, because we owed a debt of sin that we could not pay. The full price has been paid! Forgiveness of sins is a free gift, just waiting to be received by faith by anyone who wants it.
Sadly, most people don't want God's free gift, they want to earn it! Most people have been deceived by the Devil, misled to believe that works play a necessary part in our salvation. This was the sin of Adam, and it got him nowhere. This is why the Bible says in Matthew 7:13-14, “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” Salvation is so simple that most people pass right over it, instead adhering to a partial faith plus works-based false plan of salvation, which is “another Gospel” (2nd Corinthians 11:3-4; Galatians 1:6-9). As Pastor Jack Hyles explains in his classic MP3 sermon, “The Sin Question And The Son Question,” many tares (unsaved people who appear as Christians, or wheat) don't even realize that they are tares. That is a critical point to understand. I have no doubt that Dr. John Goetsch is 100% sincere. I am fully convinced that he absolutely believes that what he is teaching about turning from sins to be saved is correct in his own thinking. He does not realize that HE IS AN UNSAVED TARE! I believe Dr. Goetsch is an honorable man and a good person, no doubt; however, he is WRONG on repentance and the Gospel! DR. GOETSCH IS A TARE, BUT THINKS HE IS WHEAT! No one is saved who ADDS turning from sins to faith alone.
From the beginning of time we see the conflict between two brothers, Cain and Abel. It is interesting that two siblings, who grew up in the same family, having the same parents, coming from the same conditions and background, would pursue two drastically different plans of salvation (theologies). How can that be? It testifies to the great truth that God has given a freewill to all humanity. We all make our own choices, and determine our own fate by those decisions. No one made Cain go down a wrong path. No doubt Cain was very sincere and thought the Lord would be very pleased, with the best grains his hard labor in the fields could produce. Cain brought the very best he could achieve and offer to God, and was heart-struck when God rejected it. Likewise, God will reject Dr. John Goetsch's self-righteousness, that he adds to the righteousness which is by faith alone in the Lord Jesus Christ. What saith the Scripture? John 6:47, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” There is no mention of repenting from sins.
Furthermore, we find the words “believe,” “believest” and “believeth” mentioned 87 times in the Gospel of John, which is God's Gospel tract according to John 20:31, “But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.” Not once, NOT ONCE, is any mention made of “repentance” in the Gospel of John. The word “repent” is not mentioned even once! That is because repentance is an automatic thing. That is, the person who believes has also repented. No one can place their trust in the Gospel without first turning away from whatever was hindering them from believing the Gospel. Therefore, it is not necessary to mention repentance when sharing the Gospel with someone.
All you need to do is make sure that they realize they are a guilty sinner in the sight of a holy God in Heaven. Romans 3:19-20, “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” They need to know what they are being saved from, which is the wages of sin (the second death in Hell forever - Romans 6:23; Revelation 21:8). We deserve to be punished in Hell for our sins, but Christ has made the full payment on the cross with His precious blood, and anyone who by faith receives Christ's sacrifice as payment for their sins is saved eternally. Salvation is that simple! “THE GOSPEL” (or, “GOOD NEWS”) is comprised of three things; namely, Christ DIED on the cross for our sins, He was BURIED, and then He RESURRECTED three days later for our justification (i.e., to justify our faith in Him, because if Jesus didn't rise from the dead He cannot save us). 1st Corinthians 15:1-6 teaches “THE GOSPEL”!
Listen to what Pastor Harry Ironside correctly states in chapter 16 of his book, EXCEPT YE REPENT . . .
“In all that I have written I have failed completely to express what was surging up in my soul if I have given anyone the impression that I think of repentance as something meritorious which must be produced in man by self-effort ere he is fit to come to God for salvation.”SOURCE: Dr. Harry Ironside, a quote from chapter 16, THE PREACHING THAT PRODUCES REPENTANCE, from his timeless classic book, EXCEPT YE REPENT.
In other words, you don't have to stop sinning to be saved! Nor do you have to make a full surrender to serve Christ to be saved. Nor do you have to recognize Jesus as absolute Lord of your life to be saved. These are NOT a part of God's plan of salvation. God's simple plan is that YOU ARE A SINNER! Christ paid your sin debt in full. Unless you accept the gospel as full payment for your sins, you will spend eternity in the fires of Hell after you hear the Lord's horrifying words... I NEVER KNEW YOU! (Matthew 7:21-23).
A lot of Christians have brushed the issue aside as a matter of semantics, but the difference between these 2 very different plans of salvation is day-and-night. Billy Graham is hellbound in his false plan of grace + works salvation. One includes a certain degree of self-righteousness (which is a false gospel); but the other is solely based upon God's righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ (Philippians 3:9), which is by the precious literal, physical, liquid, precious, blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ sprinkled on the heavenly Mercy Seat (Hebrews 9:12,22-24;12:24). JESUS IS PRECIOUS!!!
John 3:16, “For God
so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
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